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I have some sympathy with Jill. She is at an age when she is looking back at her life and those damn Fairbrothers have been there always. From Phil’s first wife, Grace, who Jill was constantly compared to. Elizabeth’s relationship with Robin, Toby and Rex’s father, she was the one who warned Elizabeth that he was a bad un, and it turned out to be true. She can see it happening again with Pip. The Fairbrothers have been a thorn in her side forever and she is just speaking from experience.
I agree she is being irrational and petulant and really quite mean to Pip. On the other hand she has been making grumbling comments about the fair-brethren since they came to Ambridge and has some really deep-seated dislike of the family. The reaction from David Ruth and Carol to her outburst shows how out of character it is and how irrational she is being. I think she feels like she’s lost control and influence within her family and she is lashing out from the frustration of her opinions being discounted.
I think this comes from age when people start discounting your opinions on things because you’re old. Not that I think her opinion of the Fairbrothers is entirely fair.
Well there are two things aren’t there? There is the fact that Toby is a Fairbrother which Jill doesn’t like but also, he is, himself, a bit of a dick. Jill may not have reacted so strongly if it was Rex that Pip had invited.
Jill’s blanket disapproval of all things Fairbrother may be a bit bonkers, but I very much blame Pip for this mess. She knew perfectly well that her gran did not not like this particular Fairbrother because of his own qualities, yet she chose not only to invite him without asking first, but to dismiss, quite snippily, Ruth’s very reasonable misgivings before the event. Then, when it all inevitably ended in tears, Pip refused to acknowledge that she had had any hand in the unfortunate end to her 86 year-old gran’s big day.
And for David and Ruth to be quite blind to Pip having been in any way at fault and to blame the whole thing on Jill, well, it was that or admit Pip was less than perfect, I suppose.
If Josh had pulled a similar stunt, I can’t imagine David and Ruth being so uncritical of him.
It was Jill’s birthday and therefore she has complete ownership of the people invited. Pip is behaving like a 14 year old with her first spotty BF.
I agree and I’m also very disappointed in Carol. So far no one is seeing Jill’s point of view at all. Carol, David and Ruth are all dismissing Jill’s anger as an irrational hatred of anything Fairbrother-related when in fact Toby is person quite able to be disliked in his own right regardless of his pedigree. Carol should support her friend not make light of her feelings.
OK well! She made that plain enough.
Jill is right for the wrong reason. The trouble is the way she is going about it will make Pip dig her heels in. My prediction is that Rex will let the cat out of bag and tell her he liked her and that Toby told him she was the predator. Toby really has no idea about people, blaming Pip is going to back fire big time.Sorry Mouldyrose but I don’t think Pip is going to believe anything Rex says to her about Toby. If he is given the chance to explain that he liked her, fancied her like crazy, she might want to accept that, because she probably thinks that she is God’s gift now she has managed to get with Toby.
But believe that her Toby could possibly say that about her, never would she believe that coming from Rex. I think the bird has flown on that one.
Also does your boyfriend of 20 minutes qualify as a “partner”? In my family it wouldn’t have. You’d have to be around for about a year and mow the lawn at some stage to qualify for that status. Did Spencer turn up to family gigs uninvited? I don’t think he ever did. I do remember Pip asking her parents politely if Matthew could join them for a meal at one stage. They were fine with that but it wasn’t anyone’s birthday. Why she thinks that someone she knows is not particularly liked, who she has been with for such a short time should be welcome at a family birthday gig without even asking, doesn’t even make sense.
I agree with Ms Bubbles and would add that Pip wanted it to be a secret in the beginning and I got the impression it was because she wasn’t taking it seriously/ was embarrassed to be with the notorious Fairbrother and now she is willing to let it come between her and her gran, so… does she now think he is The One?
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