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The police mentioned that they knew Rob was tracking Helen’s phone.
How do they know this? Presumably Rob couldn’t have told the police his security pin and you can be sure he had one that Helen didn’t know. I guess they could have looked at Helen’s phone if sh let them but that’s not clear either.
Even then, so what? I’m tracking every phone in the family simply by using “find my phone ” so I can find them if they are lost. It’s not unusual.
It seems that the more important phone evidence would be related to the call to the crisis line which is much easier to prove and means a lot more to the police.
I’m not an expert by any means but there are apps that can be installed without Helen’s knowledge (especially if they’re put in a folder you don’t look into or even hidden!) so the police could have looked at Helen’s phone and found one of them. Her phone would have been taken off her when she was bought in.
I guess I assume that everyone has their phone locked with a pin code and wouldn’t give the code to the police. I’m certain Rob would have.
I’d be surprised that the police could have her phone searched so quickly and found this specialist hidden software when they seem to be completely uninterested in the possibility that she’s a victim of domestic abuse. From the sound of it, she’s the first abused wife they’ve ever met.
I think the police are interested in the possibility of domestic abuse, but, as one of them said, there’s the matter of proving it. Helen was silent (or maybe said ‘no comment’) when they asked if she knew Rob was tracking her phone, for example. (I was amazed when I heard that, btw., I had no idea you could track someone else’s phone. I notice how a lot of drama these days works on the assumption that everyone has a sophisticated smartphone-type mobile -some of us don’t!)
Helen was only giving the no comments after speaking to her solicitor. I’m sure before that she was telling them all about being abused. And Kirsty must have told the everything she knows. so, the cops had plenty of pointers to this being about domestic abuse , they just acted like they’ve never even considered the idea.
Jim O’Hara, I am sure your family is aware you track their phones. If Rob was tracking Helen’s without permission, and without her knowledge that is a real privacy violation, I would think ,anyway.
Well , that’s an interesting question. I’ve never had s conversation with my wife and kids about it.
For my kids, I’m like an employer. I’m paying for the phone so I get to track it if I need to. I would like to be able to find it if it is lost or stolen, and in an emergency I’ll need to find them since I am responsible for their safety.
For my wife, I’ve never talked with her about it specifically but we share lots of passwords and personal information because we trust each other. She ca trust me not to use that info for evil in the same way I trust her with my email password.
Anyway, it’s not some secret wife beating software that I’ve specially installed, it’s just Find my Phone with a tick to make the phone visible.
And yes, to track someone’s phone like Rob did is obviously evil.
By the way, I hope everyone realises that your mobile phone provider is constantly tracking your location, whether you’ve got a smartphone or not. Your phone tells them where it is every few minutes and the records are kept for years. And the phone companies happily share this info with the police.
That’s not far from your definition of a violation of privacy.
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