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March 14, 2016 at 3:42 pm #3057
KatieKingParticipantHello, Olly. Interesting post. First of all, I’d say that ‘craving utter control and isolation’ of one’s family is something no normal person should ever want, and Rob is only a few stages away from the kind of psycho who would imprison them in a cellar. And it’s not just Helen he wants to control; he gets very agitated when contradicted in any way in other situations–hence the punching of the hunt saboteur, the row with Charlie, the heated disagreements with Tony and Tom etc. He believes he knows what’s best every time, and that other people are invariably wrong; his tears on Friday were, I think, those of self-pity, rather than remorse; he was aware that things weren’t working out as he wanted. I don’t think he’s capable of reflecting on his own behaviour or accepting blame—it will always be someone else’s fault in his mind.
Now, the question is, has Rob a) got a personality disorder such as Narcissistic Personality Disorder or is he b) mentally ill/damaged by an abusive childhood?
If it’s a), and there’s plenty of evidence that could be the case, then sadly, nothing can be done, no therapy would work, he’ll never change. We heard Rob say ‘I don’t think it’s me’; that seemed to be a big clue that he’s not aware of how bad he is, but the reason is that he’s a sociopath and will never recognise he’s in the wrong. He believes his own warped logic and lies.If it’s b) then there’s some hope that he could gain some insight into his behaviour or respond to psychotherapy, but I’m afraid it doesn’t look likely!
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March 14, 2016 at 4:04 pm #3059
Blithe SpiritParticipantYawn. Send him to Broadmoor.
March 14, 2016 at 4:18 pm #3061
KatieKingParticipantI don’t think Rob qualifies for Broadmoor. He could, perhaps, be fined or sent to prison for 5 years under the new law against Coercive Control. (I’m fairly sure this story-line was planned to coincide with the new legislation, which seems to me to be a good thing, but problematic i.e the whole question of the burden of proof etc.)
March 14, 2016 at 4:24 pm #3062
Olly BParticipantThanks, Katie. I think you’ve managed to express the real point of my post: Rob doesn’t calculate or plan anything in a conscious way, he can’t stop himself from doing these things and has no idea that they’re wrong.
March 14, 2016 at 4:32 pm #3063
Jim O’HaraParticipantOne indicator to me that Rob I’d not a Satanic Schemer is that he wants psychological help for Helen. You’d think that any mental health professional worth their salt would quickly work out that Rob is the real problem and finally give Helen the help she needs to ditch him.
March 14, 2016 at 4:37 pm #3064
KatieKingParticipantAgree, Olly, and that would point to sociopathy. His goal is simply to get his own way from moment to moment and keep Helen to himself, although I’m not sure he wants her as much now; he wants his unborn son far more. He’s also rapidly losing interest in Henry too!
I sense that you might be a bit like me, interested in the idea of some kind of ‘cure’ or redemption; it would be lovely, I think, if Rob could see the errors of his ways, reform and respond to anger management training, psychotherapy etc., but realistically, if he’s got a personality disorder, I guess that can’t happen!
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March 14, 2016 at 6:42 pm #3066
Diane TelfordParticipantJim – he wants to be able to control her. The control is slipping. Therefore she is broken and he wants her mended so she is compliant and useful again. That does not go against his being a schemer as his motivation is not altruistic.
He wants the farm. He got rid of Tom once. He will now try to break him financially. He wants rid of Jonnie by trying to make him more employable. All that will be left is his “perfect” family and his own farm.
March 14, 2016 at 7:37 pm #3067
Blithe SpiritParticipantMy comment about Broadmoor was wry… of course he won’t be sent there. (I’ve already discussed in some detail the Serious Crime Act 2015 on the ‘Evil Ursula as well?’ thread.)
We identified some time ago that he’s a high-functioning sociopath with NPD – whether that’s informed by his past or not, to be honest, at this point, who cares? The fact is that he behaves the way he does, and Helen isn’t the only one who’s suffering…
It was vaguely interesting at first to try and work out how Titchyknob ticked, but I refuse to collude any longer with the editor’s decision to crank up the insanity volume to 11. Why? Because it has put the audience through a year of deeply unpleasant listening – in some cases, having triggered genuine trauma and distress – and it’s still doing so.
It’s also caused loyal listeners to give up on the programme completely. (See the numerous comments on The Archers online and Facebook pages from people who have been crying out for ages for a lid on this storyline. It’s a genuine shame.)
Giving this any more analytical airtime than it deserves is now just disappearing up the proverbial fundament. It would be fab if we were to turn our attention forward instead and make fun, creative predictions about what’s going to happen when the dark lord finally does get his just desserts (hopefully sooner, rather than later!).
And let’s face it, we’re owed that pay-off. If O’Connor leaves without giving us that, one suspects the pitchforks and burning torches really will be out.
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